EliteFitness.com Bodybuilding ForumsIf sv are kick starting a cycle can you regulation of steroid hormone synthesis an opinion if doing both Dbol and Prop is worth it, or would you just do one or the other? I am getting different answers through research. This will kick start a Tren E Test Dbol vs test prop kickstart cycle. Goals, statsage If it were a random question it would be one thing but this is for you.
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I'll soon be starting my 3rd cycle which isn't fully planed out yet simply coz I'm not decided on what to include. The main thing I will be doing is mg ew test c or e or a test blend like tri test. What I would like is advice on to use dbol or test prop as a kick start, so can anyone tell me the pros and cons of the two. Ether will be run for the first 4 weeks and maybe two weeks of prop at the end. Dbol will give you more strength and size in a 4 week period however it will blow you up like a bulldog Water retention.
Personally I hate the stuff. Don't see any advantage it has over TestP other than its an oral. You're pinning anyway so just go for it. The gains you make with TestP will be more keepable vs the gains you make with Dbol. Why would the gains be more keepable using test over Dbol?
Shouldn't make a difference if diet is fixed. The water retention is a side effect of Estrogen which can be controlled via an AI. Well most of the gains made with Dbol will be water. Gains from Test independent of the ester attached will be leaner than those of Dbol.
Yes of course theoretically you could control bloat with a good diet and an AI. But in reality it very nearly always doesn't happen. Most people cant handle such a strict diet. Oestrogen is actually needed to grow muscle so adding an AI could sacrifice possible gains. AI's can be quite expensive, plus everyone is different when it comes to the dosage of AI's, I started by taking 1mg of A-dex EOD when actually I found about two weeks in that I looked like a bulldog and that I needed 1mg ED to counteract the bloat and other Dbol sides, thus I just wasted time and money for the first two weeks.
Many people will disagree with me but thats just my advice. The only advantage Dbol has over Test is its strength gains, and do you really really need them? I'd prefer leaner gains with Test personally. Or maybe try Tbol, I havent had any experience with it but its supposed to be "Dbol without the sides".
I'd go with an oral. Superdrol is working wonders for me at the minute. And I used to think it was just "a sh1tty pro-hormone" Strength gains of dbol but with no bloat. I intend to use superdrol WITH test prop in a future cycle. Tbol is my usual bulking kickstart, I've also used dbol for this. Maybe even better is to start with a single 10ml vial of sustanon which contains some test prop , THEN swap to test E when you have a decent load of testosterone ester stored in your bodyfat, and getting a stable test dose in your bloodstream.
Real sustanon has 30mg of prop, and 60mg of phenyl prop which hangs around about twice as long as prop. Thats 90mg of quick acting test per 1ml injection. Most "decent lab" test props, like Prochem or alpha pharma only contain mg per ml, anyway. I tend to do 6-week cycles, so I use test prop. If I was doing a 10 or 12 week test cycle, I would definitely start off with yer classic sust blend, injecting eod for 3 weeks like it was test prop, then swapping to twice-weekly shots of test E for the remainder.
A 10ml vial is 20 days of eod injections. PCT could start 2 or 3 days later. It would fill in the "dead time" before PCT with short-half life test. Sides from orals are over-hyped. But Superdrol is know for being especially harsh on the liver, as well as M1T.
Plus you cant really compare oral steroids and PH. PH will always be more harsh on the liver as they must be metabolized by the liver into the steroid. Theres lots more to it so you can read up on it if you want. Do both I also add Oxys with my kick starts. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment.
Sign up for a new account in our community. Already have an account? Posted October 8, edited. Hi all I'll soon be starting my 3rd cycle which isn't fully planed out yet simply coz I'm not decided on what to include. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. Posted October 8, I'd go with Dbol if ya going to kick start.
Superdrol is soo harsh on the liver though aint it? I've never actually used test prop as a kickstart, but I imagine it would work well. And I didn't even know it. Edited October 8, by Zorrin. Posted October 9, All advice always appreciated cheers AD. Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. Register a new account. Sign in Already have an account? Sign In Sign Up.